Bluesky post by @gabboman.at.app.wafrn.net saying: “Thanks a lot to @rudyfraser.com for hosting the blacksky PDS. After confirmating thatis ok, wafrn now uses blacksky’s relay! In the next update other wafrns may also use the relay”
- Oh good. One step closer to real federation. With multiple protocols. AP + AT. - Meh, the one and only walking protocol is AT-AT 
- What do you mean by real federation? - Right now federation between atproto and activitypub is opt in (and not developed by the big platforms such as bluesky and mastodon) with bridgyfed. - not in wafrn, wafrn is bisexual: does both natively 
 
 
 
- As a non-techy person, I was under the impression from lots of fedi folks that it would either cost a fortune or otherwise be quite impractical to completely divorce ATProto from bluesky itself. However, as a WAFRN enjoyer, Gabbo seems to really know what he’s doing, and he actually prefers ATProto over AP… What’s the actual deal here?? Is it easier than expected somehow? - A lot of people’s research about bluesky is just the “How decentralised is bluesky really?” article by Christine lemmer-webber. 
 While the article was good at the time, and still has some relevant parts, a lot has changed since then.- Namely, relays got cheaper to run (about $30 a month). 
 Right now the problem is that everyone uses bluesky’s infrastructure (and PDS migration is a bit spotty, but bluesky is working on that).- Also: AP is pain. The spec was rushed and doesn’t include a lot of key details. Atproto was better thought out (at least in my opinion). 
- I saw it mentioned in this Cory Doctorow article a week or two back about some of his issues with bluesky, but he mentions here that the cost has came down from tens of millions a year down to tens of dollars a month - Hadn’t heard of wafrn until seeing it on f-droid this morning but I might give it a try, a tumblr-like platform would be nice since tumblr seems to have given up on using ActivityPub. 
- Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP. - I’d be afraid of one company having too much power over the whole network. - Yep it should be spread out as much as possible. - thats… what wafrn does 
 
- Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP. - well I wont get that if YOU dont join 
 
 
- Here’s a link https://app.wafrn.net/ - oh yeah, probably should have linked it. 
- Thank you! Is there an android client for it? It looks neat! 
 






