USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you’ll be in trouble if you somehow didn’t take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.
This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?
You sound like a manager, looking to control how people handle their vacation time. “Workers get punished for taking vacation” and “workers get punished for not taking vacation” are two sides of the same coin. Personally I’m in favor of “workers can do whatever they want with their PTO without fear of repurcussion”.
It’s not about punishment. If time off is optional than it’s a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.
I have no desire to work on vacation. I have no desire to work at all, I only do it because i.enjoy having food and a place to live. But I don’t believe in punishing people for victimless crimes. They’re not hurting anyone but themselves by letting their PTO expire, leave them alone.
USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you’ll be in trouble if you somehow didn’t take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.
I don’t like that either. People shouldn’t be penalized for not taking vacation. That’s just a different form of taking away their choice.
This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?
That’s quite a leap
You sound like someone with no workforce experience whatsoever.
You sound like a manager, looking to control how people handle their vacation time. “Workers get punished for taking vacation” and “workers get punished for not taking vacation” are two sides of the same coin. Personally I’m in favor of “workers can do whatever they want with their PTO without fear of repurcussion”.
It’s not about punishment. If time off is optional than it’s a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.
That’s stupid. Are you mad that they don’t let you work when the office is closed too?
I take every minute of PTO time allocated to me. I am not so arrogant that I believe others should be punished for making different choices, though.
Well you could work on vacation but it’s usually paid 2-4 times per hour. So it depends on your employer willing to pay that much.
I have no desire to work on vacation. I have no desire to work at all, I only do it because i.enjoy having food and a place to live. But I don’t believe in punishing people for victimless crimes. They’re not hurting anyone but themselves by letting their PTO expire, leave them alone.
They don’t punish workers, they fine employers for not following laws.
Oh ok. That’s fine then.