• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The American left: I won’t vote for an old white man! We want change!

    “Ok he’s gone, here’s an educated, youthful black woman”

    The American left: ew, not like that!

    (No need to reply I’ve heard all the excuses you’ve all made to explain why the black lady is hitler and just as bad as trump, by the way those excuses like typical Americans, focus on other countries and what they’re up to, instead of fixing your own damn country)

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      “Ehh, it’ll be easier to block Trump on fundamentally everything he does as he dismantles the country and straps American prosperity for his own gain than to influence Harris’ foreign policy. I think I’ll make my voice heard by just not voting.”

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      No one on the left would’ve ever said that. I think you’re confused about “the left”. You’re calling uneducated idiots “the left”

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        Have you forgotten about the instance that posted memes about sacrificing trans people to Trump to save their precious moral superiority?

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            lol corporate blue MAGA, do you somehow think MAGA isn’t corporate?

            lol, lmao even

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              “do you somehow think MAGA isn’t corporate?”
              IDK why you made that completely wrong dectuction, then again you people aren’t the smartest.

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          Do you think everyone sees the same things you do? No, I didn’t, and I’m very skeptical anyone posted that. Buy, hey maybe they did. Doesn’t make it a significant/widespread viewpoint. What I’m saying though is that if a person doesn’t hold leftist viewpoints, they aren’t on the left.

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            It was an example. Check my comment history if you want, it should be somewhere in there and yes it was applauded. There are lots of people that are economically / fanatically leftist but aren’t progressive, especially here on Lemmy.

            If being uneducated overrode political affiliation Trump supporters wouldn’t be right wingers neither

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              We live in different worlds…

              Also… wat?

              If being uneducated overrode political affiliation Trump supporters wouldn’t be right wingers neither

              The point is that you could only be so bigoted if you’re uneducated. So it seems like we agree on that but you’re speaking as though we don’t.

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                Complete non sequitur that seemed amusingly absurd:

                The point is that you could only be so bigoted if you’re uneducated.

                My brain first interpreted that to mean that, at a certain level if bigotry, one must pursue some form of education to fulfill the prerequisites of increasing bigotry further. Like the Bigotry Police show up stating “We’re sorry sir but, you can’t apply for the position of Grand Wizard until you’ve finished at least three semesters in upper-division Xenophobic Studies. Now, we’re going to let you off with a warning this time but, if you apply for the role again without proper credentials, we are going to have to cite you.”

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            leftists wouldn’t vote for a genocide collaborator, warmonger and enemy of minorities and working class.

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                You clearly don’t in your simplistic ‘orange man bad so other side is automatically good’ toddler view.
                But that makes the ghoul’s loss even more enjoyable actually.

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                  I don’t know what you’re babbling about but just because you have to vote for the lesser of two evils doesn’t mean you like it. Since you apparently didn’t, you chose trump. I will always point it out to you people, since it’s true, and it makes you so mad. Don’t like it? Look at history and cry. This idea that suddenly third parties can win won’t happen in this country until it falls and the government is recreated from scratch. Which btw, you probably helped happen. So yay for you, nevermind all the people who will suffer due to your refusal to acknowledge history.

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      Idk I think many Americans are that shallow but I think the majority don’t care about skin color or gender. I think she would have won if the Dems hadn’t tightened the leash and let her run a more progressive campaign instead of forcing her to go into lock step with Biden and campaigning with Cheney.

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        the hilarious thing is that they had tim walz as a running mate, and everyone obviously LOVES him because he seems like a genuinely good person, and kamala just kinda… did nothing with that?

        like especially when contrasted to walz, harris just feels like a cardboard cutout, and democrats are just puzzled why people give up on voting as a whole

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        I don’t think Harris was progressive at all. She seemed disingenuous, media-trained to be as uncontroversial as possible, and every talking point focus tested. Her major economic policy was to give more money to business owners. I think Waltz is somewhat progressive, and they did put a leash on him. I agree she would’ve won if she was more progressive, especially if she focused on policies benefiting labor.

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        If she’d kept talking about housing and price gouging she wins, maybe even without distancing herself from Biden on Gaza. If she does all three it’s the landslide the ppl were predicting before she went on tour with Liz

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        Ive seen that one of the major demographics that swung the election was Latino Men, and a lot of the follow up was that there was a lot of sexism/racism in that. They couldnt fathom a black lady being president. At the time, Trump was already threatening to throw them out of the country, and they still voted for him.

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      I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. The “left” isn’t a big enough voting bloc to swing an election. I’m an anti-electoralist and I voted for the fucking cop. Most of us vote despite our opinions on the two party system. Blame white liberals. They’re the ones who didn’t show up

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        Blame white liberals. They’re the ones who didn’t show up

        100%.

        As a fellow leftist who also held my nose and voted for the anointed Kamala, these tired attacks on the left with our “incredibly massive amount of political sway” are getting quite old.

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          Seriously. If the left are to blame for harris’ loss, if they really can swing elections like the centrists who hate them claim, the left are kingmakers and should be treated accordingly.

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      The amount of people who are BuT GeNoCiDe screaming is pathetic. They didn’t give a fuck about Sudan being in a civil war, they don’t care about Myanmar. They don’t care that trump wantonly supports Russia who’s ethnically cleansing Ukraine right now, it’s just all about Gaza for them.

      Somehow, trump gets a pass from them with Russia, but Israel doing what Israel has done pretty much since it’s existence is the fault of only Kamala.

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        When the young American left started yelling about gaza I was like “y’all just found out about gaza? That shit has been going on for like 60 years” and don’t get me wrong, im not against any of the points that are being made. Im just against Americans leading the charge. Americans are the last people who should be criticizing annyone about genocide, it’s their national pastime. It’s the left’s version of being the world police. And I guess it’s easier to try and fix Israel than to try and fix their own country which is currently on fire.

        My message to Americans would be, i agree with you on this. Now shut the fuck up and fix your own shit

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        I can’t believe, post election and after everything we’ve seen, people are still playing this “both sides are the exact same” bullshit. Trump and Netanyahu played you guys like a fiddle

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            It’s easier to blame the black lady than your own inaction.

            It’s also easy to criticize and try to moralize to a country across the planet, than it is to fix your own damn country. Which is why Americans love this Israel situation they’ve created and are now blaming others for

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          They refuse to participate in the process, demand everyone needs to cater specifically to them, and then cry when people point out that they could have helped beat the worse person, but didn’t. They literally are blue maga.

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      Whatever happens, can’t let democrats democratically elect their candidate. No, the candidate shall be anointed!

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        It’s always funny how people from .ml parrot right wing talking points while unironically calling themselves leftists.

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          Sure, the fascist -lite party can not be criticised.
          Still crying over your loss and blaming leftists? LOL

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    It was an opinion piece.

    Fuck Trump and America, but The Hill didn’t say that with the weight that this insinuates.

    The story is again Americas media literacy perhaps.

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      Opinion pieces abuse the legitimacy of the publisher to get out stuff like this, and that’s a failing on the media platform, just like native advertising. If they don’t want to be associated, make sure the tweet makes it absolutely obvious that it isn’t the Hill saying this, but just some nobody with an opinion.

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      was it given a platform and promoted by the organization?

      they printed it as their opinion. and clearly promoted it as their opinion.

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      BTC (who knows his shit) called out @TheHillOpinion. @TheHill posted the original. I don’t see a problem here.