cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/31943458

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For the past few years any time there’s a public shooting, political or not, fascists immediately begin pushing a narrative that the shooter had some connection to the trans community, anarchist or communist politics, to migrant or Black communities. These are always tenuous claims but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, it’s time to recognize the danger of these kinds of mythmakings. They are calls to violence.

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    29 days ago

    … but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, …

    Source?

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      There’s this one in Mississippi but as stated in the article:

      a preliminary report released earlier this week by the Bolivar County Coroner’s Office “indicates no evidence of foul play.”

      Though I and others are skeptical of that initial report.

      I haven’t heard of any other lynchings.

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        There was a white guy who found hanging a few days ago… Also in Mississippi but something like 100 miles away. I think it might have been before Kirk was shot…

        Anyway, the conspiracy minded already lumped the two together without learning the details of either. As is now the custom.

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        And the coroner confirmed no evidence of assault, so it’s not just the police or school leadership. That makes it more credible to me, but I guess we’ll see.

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      here are just two that i’ve found:
      Trey Reed
      Cory Zukatis

      as far as i know, there’s no evidence that links those two murders to charlie kirk, but this is america we’re talking about. two Black men, hanged, both in mississippi? that’s not a coincidence. it’s white terrorism.

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        I was aware of Trey Reed, not aware of Cory Zukatis.

        Reed’s death is still being investigated, police statements are very confident that it was not “foul play.” Yes, I want more confirmation than just police statements, but the investigation is ongoing, and I don’t expect them to say anything more publicly any time soon.

        Zukatis was white.

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          Zukatis was white.

          you’re right, my bad. that wasn’t known when his death was reported, my sources are outdated and seem to assume he was Black.

          my point still 1000% stands for Trey Reed. american police is descended from slave patrols. anything they say about a Black person’s death is to be taken with extreme scrutiny.

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            Read the news, I saw an article claiming the coroner found no evidence of assault. It’s possible that all three are covering it up, but the simpler answer is that he killed himself.

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            american police is descended from slave patrols. anything they say about a Black person’s death is to be taken with extreme scrutiny.

            Unless what they say confirms your biases, right?

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            I also know that the family intends to have their own independent autopsy done, and are arranging their own investigation.

            I’m fine with reserving judgement until some of that comes out.

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              Oh absolutely, and we’ll certainly hear about it if there is evidence of foul play. For the time being, the only reason to suspect foul play is that the kid is black and it was public. People commit suicide in public all the time, depression doesn’t care about your skin color, and lynchings are generally meant to send a message (so I’d expect a much more gory killing in that case).

              I’m not saying they shouldn’t investigate, I’m saying there’s no reason yet to assume foul play. An investigation should be done regardless to find out why he killed himself (bullying? Depression?) so we can find ways to prevent it next time.

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                Apologies if my earlier reply sounded argumentative; I didn’t mean it to be. I just meant it as “This is also going on and here’s what I’m doing with the available information.”

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      It’s incredibly hypercritical to call out the right starting narratives before any evidence is released, while doing THE SAME EXACT THING!!! In your own damn post. I feel like I’m going crazy. This post gave me brain damage. I should expect this type of thing these days but good grief.