There is a term for when government can break its laws. "Failed Nation’

  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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    ICE was doing the same shit under Obama. I hate that we’re so team focused that we don’t recognize when our team is doing it.

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      I’m going to need citations for ICE raiding schools, repelling from helicopters to raid apartment buildings, shooting people in the face, going door to door without warrants, ramming cars to kidnap people on the suspicion they aren’t citizens, disappearing citizens for months at a time, saying Real ID isn’t proof of citizenship, or deporting people to prisons in other countries that the person isn’t from with an understanding that they will never be released despite a lack of due process.

      It’s one thing to make a claim, it’s another to back it up and prove your point.

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      Not really no. Citizen arrests are up like 5000% last I heard. They were thugs yes, just thugs with less confidence.

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      Lol, I mean not really. Conflating what they are doing now with the shit they were up to under Obama is just being dishonest.

      Secondly, criticism against ice now doesn’t mean you agree with what they were doing under a different administration. Saying trump is bad does not mean you are claiming Obama is good.

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      “bOtH sIdEs dO iT”

      • idiots who have swallowed the propaganda bullshit and called it chocolate pudding
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      Not anywhere near these levels nor with the same indescriminate backing. ICE has a job to do, but Cheeto Mussolini has changed the job description and given them 10x the funding and man power to be his private army to punish Blue states specifically. That’s not how this all should work, nor worked under Obama. Nice try though.