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I’m interested in the topic in general, but not in explaining that declarative systems don’t solve the problem of continuously changing software (e.g., for security updates, changing landscape), and the need to update configs that goes along with it. Hope that helps!

Okay, not really interested in this discussion. Of course, I can also keep running Debian 10 forever

Except that things change as well in (or rather “around”) declarative systems, and you have to update your config files as well. That’s because the underlying software changes, and it has nothing to do with whether your system is declarative or not. You just need to put in the work to update your configs at a different point in time.

For everyone who doesn’t have several different systems to maintain, I find the advantages of nixOS to be marginal. Sure, you can argue about atomicity and all, but honestly I don’t remember ever running into a serious problem with debian either. The huge package repo is nice, but I rarely encounter an app I can’t get through apt, flatpak, or as an appimage.

At the same time, nix also has various downsides. Documentation sucks. There are two main ways to manage the system, they both pretend to be the better one, and it’s super hard to even get started. That’s not an issue with the technology, but just a lack of priority. Guix is much better on that end (but also comes with the same marginal advantages).

On the other hand, debian has a stable community, with proper processes, democratic structures etc.

This is a nice, kind of old presentation from debconf, where people discussed nix and how this could be useful in a debian context as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrcLEweglg

So, if you FOMO, don’t worry. Debian and other options have this on the radar and have their ways to adapt (even if slowly)

In fact, it is quite believable imho

Same. By all the hype around it, I would have expected some extreme value, like either a 1-2 or a 9-10. But it was really just quite… mediocre?

It is a popular perfume among the skeleton folks, but the way you put it sounds rude

Hm, not sure if Nintendo is the right target here. Sure, they are popular with a certain crowd, but the argument is not super convincing. Why would a Japanese company that has a global business unnecessarily get involved in American politics? What would there be for them to win? New tariffs? Try to find an American company and shit on them, that might work better. Like Disney, Amazon, Meta, Apple, for example. Apple in particular might be a good target at the moment. Their new products are shit, people hate the direction everything is taking, but still have a deep attachment to the company (weirdest kink ever, if you ask me).

To me, Nintendo here just acts as a big corp doing big corp things. Make as much money as possible and wherever possible, don’t mess with politics. They would be a better target if this were about Japanese politics, although unfortunately nobody cares about politics here and the fascist lot is also on the rise (“Japan first” lmao).

Anyone here who is deep into the LOTR and Star Wars lore and can confirm there could be a timeline like that? AFAIK both are written to have happened some time in the past?

You put your house upside down

Waiting for the day they finally drop it… … like unity … like mir … like ubuntu mobile (or whatever it was called)

3 years, so I guess you have caught the Linux virus around that time as well?

They have a history of showing ads and sharing user data with amazon: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks

Some of the other things they tried are a bit difficult to judge, but I lost my trust and count them as lock-in attempts. These include:

• snap packages (for real, just move over to flatpak already like everyone else!)
• mir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)

Notable good parts that I have not mentioned, but maybe should out of fairness:

• unity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)
• I also think canonical was among the first to try and build some form of Linux mobile OS with some interesting ideas

True, the apt packages can get outdated (or are already outdated at release time :) ). But tbh, for me that mainly affects the desktop environment these days and KDE is already pretty neat anyway. The CLI tools I use don’t change as much anymore, and the GUI tools are usually available as a flatpak so up-to-date.

Intolerable, scammy OS. Everything good in Ubuntu these days can be traced back to other projects, such as debian/Gnome/KDE. Whatever Canonical adds to that is just an attempt to lock you in their ecosystem or wring money out of you.

Just use debian instead.

But as I know the Danish, you probably pronounce it more like Kanelsnegle

Which is, btw, no real effect but just autocorrelation:

https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2022/04/08/the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-autocorrelation/

Right, how is anything more sustainable than Debian?

Imagine you are a billionaire. You have more money than anyone could ever spend. You could spend time on the things you enjoy, with the people you admire or who are dear to you, or even - sometimes - use some of that money to make the world a better place for everyone. Learn about different cultures, learn a new language. Be physically active.

And instead you find yourself sitting with the worst people in the world, crawling up the ass of some orange convict, rapist, and con artist.

If they weren’t tearing the world around them down along with themselves, I could almost feel some pity for those suckers.

Happy to see that nobody in the comment section seems to fall for this. I’m sure that’s representative for the global human race

I think there are no twins in Denmark