So that’s deeply, nightmarishly fucked up, right?

No, there are techniques for dismantling that programming.

Yes, you know the truth. And everybody around you knows the truth. And all of the right authorities agree with you. And this is all completely logical, obvious, right and scientific. And anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong, bad and insane.

It’s an old story.

Thanks

I have not insulted you once. You have insulted me a dozen times. Peruse this thread if you doubt me.

I’ve heard of lots of side effects actually.

And yet, instead of simply offering rational arguments, you sling invective and tell me how right you are and how wrong I am, over and over.

It’s like talking to a religious zealot.

Believe it or not it’s a straight question and it is a subject that we can discuss rationally.

This intense confidence in your own vision of truth is a problem

You paint a very black-and-white cartoon

Well I’m not the one saying mean stuff, so yes, the rage is on your side.

So you are uncontrollably raging now? All rationality is blotted from your mind? Doesn’t that seem bad to you?

good talk

Actually, they changed the definition to remove the “made from weakened organisms” part. To allow this other kind of “vaccine”.

Now take a breath.

And questions still remain questions. I asked you one.

How about you, do you think that you’re suffering from the influence?

For the purposes of my point the difference doesn’t matter. Both are offering themselves as authoritative truth. Both are advising the suppression of personal truth in favor of that authority.

(Now take a breath. Dang!)

I doubt it. .

How about you, are you suffering from grift or is it truth?

I don’t listen to Joe Rogan. I don’t listen to any of that stuff, from any tribe

Hmm. Ok. My experience with cities is only soso.

I was thinking of the closeness. Memes travel fast in that environment. So there are strong emergent effects and strong subcultures. When I meet city people I see these strong group opinions and whatever the political bandwagon of the hour, they’re on it.

Whereas here in the sticks we’re all a bunch of slackers, relatively speaking.

I like to think that I’m better than that of course. And no doubt it works both ways.