You don’t seem to realise, that it’s not about your defense. You are likely to die at the frontlines or due to some nuke, once NATO countries decide go to war, if anything. Its “defense” is for the western imposed capitalist and imperialist world order — which is in crisis right now. Not for you, not for your loved ones, not for your way of life.

I am sure

Sure? How? On what basis? Vibes?

the US has definitely abused this in order to get what they want

Why wouldn’t that happen again? What’s different, if the EU abuses it?

You’re naive, sorry. Don’t simp for NATO.

In order for your explanations to have any kind of substance, could you list all the similarities between tankies and conservatives, that are not also traits of libertarians, you have in mind?

I get that you need an enemy, curious that you found it on the left, while drinking the cool-aid with radlibs and fascists. Fine anarchist you are. Or maybe you should start using a different kind of symbolism for self-identification.

Cool, so that’s my social credit score then, lovely. And because the machine said so, you instantly listened, gullible as you are! Beware!

Not once have I lied, but I’m sure the votes from some randos disliking my public meta-confrontations with bartender goat and that ultra nationalist skiluros (what’s their SCS, btw?), should be taken as the gold standard for reputation measurement. Lol.

There’s this German saying:

Ist der Ruf erst ruiniert, lebt es sich erst ungeniert.

Anyway, idgaf, all I’m telling you is: This is a toxic community. Nobody gives a fuck, if you call them tankie, but it does show your level of ignorance. Don’t be ignorant. Regressive people are ignorant.

Look ma, it‘s another ignorant idiot blocking themselves into an echo chamber, because they‘re unable to see through their own indoctrination.

So if people keep learning and will change their previous held convictions in light of new evidence they’ve seen, you start not taking them seriously? I’d say the fail is on your side there.

See: nazi bar, and you being the bartender.

I’m mad, because you are an enabler of fascist narratives, counterfactuality and hate speech.

a. If you think I’m a nazi in a bar, that’s not a nazi bar: why am I still here, bartender?

b. If you think I’m not a nazi, but in a nazi bar, the real question would be: what are you doing here, bartender?

i think you’re mad because i didn’t fit into your preconceived notions and your whole dialogue tree is ruined

Lol ya, big ass gotcha, haha. Why you think my notion is preconceived? I’m working with what you give me.

Ah, alright. The mod of a nazi bar¹ highly politicized community² doesn’t like labels and then strategically formulates the most broad and empty perspective about their own ideological thought, one can come up with. I applaud the skill³ you excercise.

What about yourself?

Let me try one like that, but from my perspective:

I avoid labelling myself as I don’t think it does any good.

But gun to the head, I’d have to say I’m also somewhat of an environmentalist, but actually more of a humanist with a touch of economic analysis. Though I avoid calling myself an economic analyst because it can be affiliated with radicalism, and I’m not opposed to democratic institutions.

Socially, I care most about justice, liberation and human dignity.

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1. Nazi Bar: A space in which bigots or extremists have come to dominate due to a lack of moderation or by moderators wishing to remain neutral or avoid conflict.
2. A community, that bases its entire means of existence on the labeling of the political other.
3. Blame-avoidance and the refusal to clearly label one’s views are common tactics used by individuals — especially those holding controversial, minority, or potentially stigmatized positions, but also by politicians seeking to broaden their appeal or evade direct critique.

What‘s your ideology, goat?

Here’s a long-winded diatribe just for you. I hope your attention span will manage.

with each and every person

Everyone … in this thread, in which you inserted yourself? Bohoo. After I was offline for a couple of hours, iiiimagiiine that!

All you managed until now is complain and showcase your self-proclaimed lack of imagination.

Figure this: You’ve got no devotion, imagination for other perspectives, because all you do is consume western viewpoints in the few hours of each day, in which you are free not to fight for your existence. But imagine that, there‘s a whole world out there, and there do exist diverging opinions. I know, it‘s hard when you‘re trapped in capitalist realism (there‘s a book on that, a suggestion).

And you use the time to hang out with fascists and wanna-be fascists, ranting about a perceived enemy, the authoritarian left. Dude, you’re off the deep end.

Btw, which country am I devoted to, please tell me! China? Because I don’t put up with goat’s bullshit? You might just be an idiot.

Authoritarian opinions are not worthy of being discussed. Just like I don’t give two fucks what a Nazi says, I also give no fucks what authoritarians say.

That’s an unworthwhile authoritarian opinion.

So you’re of the enlightened centrist kind of flavor, equating nazism or fascism with communism, believing in horse shoe theory, fearing anything too far off of status quo?

What’s your idea how fascism rises? What is your utopia? Why are you participating in a community based on gossip, propaganda and on hate towards an outgroup? Where is your engagement against right wing extremism? Or is it the left in particular and your commentary about nazis was merely lip service?

How many months old does my account have to be, before you stop talking like a conspiracy theorist?

And why do you think “If you like them so much, why don’t you go live there?” is in any way some kind of clever stance? Don’t you like dissenting opinions? You want them gone?

It’s true, that quite a few comments are here, it’s because you’re all such a reasonable bunch of nice folks. I want to know what makes you tick — it’s a bleak picture, tho.

Thanks for your comprehensive answer, lol.

The third one is not the same account. Is it the same user? You tell me, you’re the mod.

So you actually managed to do moderation stuff and banned the fascist for a whole week, congratulations. I am indeed a bit surprised, gj!

How did that came to be? Because every time I pointed out their language, you ignored it, even called me unhinged for articulating a thorough critique. So you didn’t act on the user spewing hate speech, but on the user confronting you with your ignorant inaction. I don’t see how you’re fit for the job, lol.

Regarding the third example: instead of acting on the hate speech for which the user got their comment deleted (they openly fantasized about scenarios on how to kill a whole group of people), you used your energy to smudge the meaning of ableism in order to defend their post complaining about it. You’re still a shady and dishonest human being. And I am sorry, but that’s what I’m getting from your behaviour.

So, what brought you so far to actually ban a fascist for a week, what did he actually say? Because the instances I showed you obviously weren’t bad enough for you to act on it.

Okay, so, here, I bothered. Now show me how you’re not answering any of my arguments in regards to hate speech and distract from the inherent toxicity of your community, which you facilitate (might have to read context, don’t pretend the infos aren’t there):

Round 1, Round 2, Round 3

Three cases, where I confronted you with that, every time you avoided positioning yourself and distracted. Within a couple of weeks, in an almost dead community. Maybe you should get your head checked, if you can’t remember these confrontations. Last time I’ll answer any of your “show me” questions as I regard them as unserious distractions now.

Let’s see how you’ll not do it again, this time. Am off for now, tho. Take your time, understand the critique, drink a tea, reflect, drink another tea.

Dude, it’s alright, this is getting too dumb now. You cherrypick the most irrelevant point and it’s not even a good counter.

The fact that you always end up boring me to death, leaves me thinking, that you are indeed just really, really ignorant and maybe, just maybe not a propagandist. Hooray.

I’m saying that your “independent” label is worth nothing.

No, I’m saying you’re a funny guy.

That’s what he does, tho. If I do bother complying, he wouldn’t engage with the actual arguments or critique. That’s what I’m referencing and that’s also why I won’t play that stupid game. Tried a few times, it’s a useless endeavour.