I really, really hate that one third of this country are truly rubes.
It’s probably just that ~a third of humans are vulnerable to the fascist con. Most everyone is vulnerable to one grift or another, though this is probably the most dangerous one of all.
That’s a fact that probably won’t ever change. We desperately need social infrastructure to counter that threat. Campaigns, laws, cultural norms, social institutions that kind of thing. I don’t pretend to know what exactly that would look like, but the need seems clear.
I would imagine that the 1/3 that like fascism are also on the bottom of the IQ metric. Dumb people take comfort in authority, I think it’s really that simple.
You spelled 50% wrong.
50%
A third is more likely:
- 29.5% of the adult population voted for trump to be president. Imagine you’re a fascist and trump literally says vote for me and we’ll never have another election. You gonna sit this one out? Non voting regime supporters surely exist, but only in very small numbers.
- Winning attracts supporters. We see this in sport, war and politics. Fascism is in the ascendancy. Some percentage of supporters are not ideologically committed but fairweather opportunists who can be pried away.
- 2024 was not a free and fair election, and the results do not reflect the will of the population. Decades of gerrymandering and disinfo, illegal vote buying schemes, unchecked foreign interference, dark money and an electoral system that was never intended to truly reflect the will of the people gave us the result the wealthy wanted.
- The voting totals could still be just wrong. Maybe. We all know why republicans spent so much time accusing the other side of being pedophiles, and they spent just as much time accusing them of rampant electoral fraud.
Nonvoters and general election protest voters are also stupid and/or selfish assholes, which pushes the number way past 50%
Sucks you’re getting downvoted. They always come out of the woodwork and pretend that abstaining is action. I hate non voters more than MAGA.
Oh but they are quick do downvote anyone calling them assholes for letting the insane people pump the gas on fascism.
It’s because there is a funded psyop promoting eastern dictatorships all over lemmy, and Trump was their preferred candidate. I’m trying to use Piefed.World more often because the main Lemmy developers are such people, but theres a lot of features missing and they haven’t updated the instance in a while, sadly. Lemmy and Piefed are both frameworks that these federated instances are built upon.
I have similar concerns and was thinking about joining the solarpunk piefed for similar reasons
There was a massive, expensive disinformation campaign coupled with every legal, semi-legal and frequently illegal barrier to voting that the republicans and their allies could bring to bear.
Calling people assholes because the rich invested hordes of time and wealth into driving down turnout doesn’t make much sense to me.
Blame the rich fascists for pursuing this, dont blame people just because they live in a system where this is possible.
I saw what was happening. I saw people informing the public of what was happening. Then, I saw the Republicans win the election.
I don’t know if someday I’ll be able to forgive people for it, but I don’t forgive a single cocksucking one, rn.
This attitude is a gift to fascists. Save your scorn for the nazis who were able to subvert our shitty electoral system.
A gift to the fascists was almost 9 million people who voted for Biden staying home when the time came to vote for Harris. Trump’s vote barely changed from 2020. The 2024 Nonvoters chose everything bad that happens under the Trump admin, they were the great deciders and they chose this.
How many people did you drive to the polls?
I don’t drive, but I did help 7 people fill out absentee ballot requests months in advance.
They are even worse. Don’t @ me yall idiots. “Oh no I’m not getting everything I want, I’m taking my ball and going home!”
he also got alot more black, latino, and asian men this time to, who fell into the manosphere/incelism.
That number is a lot lower when you factor in the people that are too apathetic / disillusioned to vote or be polled with registered voters.
Trump’s base is about 35% and his approval ratings are around 40%.
And those numbers are still just so unimaginably high
Depends where you live and what social media you’re being guided too. The right wing media bubble is quite massive in today’s America.
Also, Lemmy is very much not representative of the surrounding world. If that were true, everyone would be running Linux and would have a home NAS.
everyone would be running Linux and would have a home NAS.
You mean they don’t?!
The rightwing media bubble is honestly wild. I went to a red area recently and every radio station had weird shit on it and blatant lies and propaganda. The newspapers, the conversations, everything, they kind of live in a totally different world.
its also co-opted from russia, flood the news with crap, or firehose of falsehood. this how they keep people on thier toes from concentrating one thing. thats what trump is doing to distract from the epstein files and the fallout of the cuts, and the BBB.
Gish gallop, they do so much we can’t keep track.
Wild to remember seeing in 2016 the funny obvious Russian propaganda and laughing at it, and now it’s here and just as stupid, but people are deepthroating it like crazy. Shouldn’t have laughed at Russia, what arrogance I had
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Some, yes. Others who are super disenfranchised, I kind of get it.
I ran into some pretty fucked up stories when I worked in Alabama for several years. Outside of Birmingham I’d hear stories from black voters about limited polling places, that were super far away, were hard to hit up during work hours, and had good ‘ol boys intimidating anyone that wasn’t white.
And if folks did tough it out, they were gerrymandering to high hell, so the vote was designed to go nowhere.
aside from the voting machine riggings plus the voter suppression.
the worst are the totally ignorant like the ones who dint know biden wasnt running anymore, or how they dint bothered because they forgot.
I’m sorry that you under counted…
Edit, I’m a socialist… I meant more than a third of the country is dumb.
They made sure to get you though!
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Now that’s how Portland gets it done. Clown on them fascists! Very nice!
(Portland is a twenty five minute drive up the street from me. There’s literally nothing going on there. We oregonians are enjoying the return of the rain and of pumpkin spice so fuck off fascists! We are busy!)
I just stopped through there on the way home from seaside. Granted it was a few weeks ago, but there were no fires and not once did I fear for my life in any way, shape, or form. I am Canadian, popped through for a conference and had zero trouble. Gotta love the PNW, we don’t need your East Coast racism and BS performance politics, please and thank you.
Do they have a different meaning on Antifa?
Do they know if they are against the people who are against fascism, that heavily implies that you are pro fascism?
They rely on their base which has no concept of what things mean so they can just make shit up and their base will just gobble it up…
they also need to constantly propagandize thier base 24/7 or the 'conservatives" start to realize whats going on. of course they will find/mental gymnastics to assert thier original beliefs of what fox said originally.
They don’t know that words have meanings.
They don’t bother breaking down the name. They’re just told it’s evil and bad.
That’s too deep. If they said “anti-fascist” it would give the game away. Like Clark Kent putting on his glasses. Antifa = bad is the extent of it messaging wise.
they think its a single unifed organization, and not a loose coalition.
When those riots occurred, it was reported that they were done by a group that called themselves Antifa. People say that there are no groups called Antifa, but there are groups that have Antifa in their name such as Rose City Antifa. It’s kinda like how BLM had the movement, idealogy, and also an organization.
yes they do conservative version of antifa=terrorist group that is organanized, like thier “oathkeepers” proudboys. thats the only frame of reference they have muslims=terrorists or terrorist organization.
This shit is pretty brilliant and we need more of it. It’s peaceful and it trends online because it’s funny as fuck. It cuts through the state propaganda machine and shows that these authoritarians hats are creating and selling a false narrative.
Never been more proud of Portland than in this moment. Makes me wish I would’ve moved there when I was debating it a few years ago.
Could you imagine if Biden sent the national guard to Texas to stop the radical right and spewed all this bullshit? There actually would be a civil war.
fox and australian Sky news(murdochs other pure propaganda channel on youtube) would be railing on biden 24/7. tagging along with CNN,OAN, NEWSMAX.
Imagine if he sent Yankee national guard troops from Chicago.
How to troll your oppressors. Master class.
It feels so wrong laughing at a civil war, but it also somehow feels right
i read an intersting comment in the same situation on a sub earlier this week, the oligarchs want a civil war because they can pick up the pieces and choose the winning side, the last thing they want its a total uprising./revolution(where “heads” start rolling on the floor)
At this point, I’d really like to see a survey about the extent to which Americans believe all these lies.
Obviously, the MSM repeat them (and Fox amplifies them), but my feeling is that a majority of people in the US can see this is all bullshit.
Clearly you can see the inflatable frog and dinosaur costume wearers were “starting a fire” in front of ICE field HQ!
Checkmate leftists!
Did you see the red laser beams shoot out that terrorist ukulele player’s eyes?
The absurdity of these fascist shitheels.
Noooooooo! Not the ukuleles!!! Oh the humanity…
Proud of Portlandian!
shes wearing her lying CROSS again, everytime she lies it gets bigger or it burns her.
man let the news make the click bait titles say whats in the fucking video
It is, in fact, real footage from Portland in 2025
How would you prefer the post be titled?
