• AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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      21 days ago

      I have a not antisemitic Jew joke that I like;

      "Four rabbis are debating scripture out in the garden, and one of them notices he’s continuously outvoted by the other three even though he’s absolutely certain he’s right. At a certain point, his frustration gets the best of him and he stands up, raises his hands and and says “My Lord, you must know that this is the right way, gives us a sign to let us know!”

      As soon as he has spoken, a cloud materializes out of nowhere, moves in front of the sun and dissolves again.

      The other three look at him, at each other, go “Well… That was certainly unusual, but the weather’s been acting up a bit lately, so this does not really mean anything”, and just continue with the discussion unmoved.

      The fourth rabbi, increasingly desperate, again stands up and calls out “My Lord, they continue to defy your word, please send another sign to help them see the error of their ways!”

      This time, it’s not just one cloud, but the entire sky darkens, a thunderclap sounds and a bolt of lightning hits just next to the other three rabbis. They’re startled, but after catching their breath conclude that no, you don’t see that every day, but it’s late summer, thunderstorms can come in surprisingly quickly, we’re out in an open garden, there’s no lightning rod on top of the synagogue even though there really should be, etc. So this still doesn’t mean anything, we’ll stick with our viewpoints thank you very much.

      Now absolutely livid and still outvoted, the fourth rabbi gets up one final time, stamps his feet, raises his hands and shouts “Oh Lord, you who created all, for the love of your people and the ways of the world, make your will known, so that it must be clear even to these stubborn mules!”

      And a booming voice fills the sky, “HE IS CORRECT”

      The other three rabbis look up, look down to their colleague, and finally one says:

      “That’s still three against two” "

      I like it because it captures an aspect of Judaism that I, a non Jew, didn’t understand until I spent a long time hanging out with a dear friend who’s Jewish — including being in the general vicinity while they did Zoom Talmud classes. Valuing the process (the argumentation to get to the answer) more than the answer itself is something that wasn’t familiar to me, as someone who’s culturally Christian. Like, this joke is going “lol, Jews love to argue”, but it’s not just the superficial joke that’s being made, but the deeper underlying point that when it comes to interpreting the word of God, that rabbis can’t rely on divine intervention to clear up a dispute, because this will just create more stuff that needs to be interpreted. I also enjoy the fact that although I read this in a joke context, it turns out to actually be a story in the Talmud

    • Gabe Bell@lemmy.worldOP
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      Religion has been described as a collection of laws and guidelines that circumscribe a man’s life.

      That’s especially true of Judaism.